Sheep as Wise as Serpents

The Krewe will try to be wise as serpents, but peaceful as doves...not sure we'll accomplish either on this week's episode of Implicit Bias Radio!

We've got serious questions about the death of Senator Graham, we're just over UFO stuff, and we love the way a German Porche dealership dealt with morons.

There's a really special #weeklywhisky which we'll review, a bottle of unobtainium for Mike "Donkey Whiskey" Trammel...Laugh with us, laugh at us as long as you Like, Share, and Follow your Implicit Bias!

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:00

The trick to surviving a wolf pack is not learning how to howl. It's realizing that the wolf has already decided that you're dinner before you've even smelled the musk in the forest. Welcome back, folks, to Implicit Bias Radio. I'm your host, Kavon Bordelon. And this week, we are not sugarcoating the wilderness. We are chewing on the hard truth that good people are out here trying to live like sheep in the middle of a world convention full of wolves. And the wolves, they don't do polite instructions. They hunt with patience, precision, and pure predatory instinct. So let's get biblical with this one right off the bat. King James Version, straight from the source, Gospel of Matthew, chapter 10, verse 16. Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves. Be ye therefore wise as serpents and harmless as doves. Now, that's not a suggestion for a cozy life. That's deployment orders. Jesus wasn't sending us into a kumbaya, everybody sharing type petting zoo. No. He was dropping us right into the flu the food chain of the wolves. The imagery here is just flat out amazing. I mean, think about how a real wolf operates. He doesn't come barreling out of the tree line with, you know, a megaphone announcing, I'm here to eat your lunch and your future. No. He studies the herd. He isolates the weak, the distracted, the overly trusting. He uses the terrain, shadows silence the wind at his back. They flank, they wait for that one moment when kindness looks a lot like carelessness. Does that sound familiar? I mean, if we stop and think about it, that's exactly how the manipulative operators in this world work. They don't wear villain capes, they wear smiles, fine prints, trust me, bro vibes, and sob story emotions designed to lower your guard. They isolate us from the good counsel. You know, they feed us half truths that taste like wisdom. And before we know it, we're separated from the flock with our financial future, our peace of mind, our reputation bleeding out on the forest floor. It is straight psychological chess. But they're playing with loaded pieces, and we're still counting on good sportsmanship. We unfortunately treat the world like a Sunday school picnic too many times. Some folks are out here playing basketball with predators who don't even know the rules. They just want to steal the ball, the sneakers, your wallet, your soul while you're still checking the shot clock like it's a fair game. Look, the serpent in the verse isn't some cartoon villain slithering around being evil for fun. He's shrewd. He's calculating. He calculates the terrain. He sees the trap before he steps in it. He doesn't strike first, he strikes smart. And that that's actually what we're called to be. Wise as serpents, not paranoid, not cynical, but aware. Eyes open, nose to the wind. You can love your neighbor and still know exactly where the exits are and who's lying about their credentials. But notice the balance. Harmless as doves. Not be as gullible as a golden retriever who thinks every hand is holding treats. No, being harmless doesn't mean being a doormat with a pulse. It means our heart has to stay pure even while the mind stays sharp. We don't have to become a wolf to survive the wolves. And ultimately, that might be the big trap. Some of us are trying so hard to blend in with the pack that we've started wearing the fur. We think if we play their game of manipulation just a little, we'll outsnake the snakes. That's Tropic Thunder type logic. You know, putting on the costume, going full method actor in the jungle only to forget who we actually are and we end up becoming a panda. Eventually, the role consumes us. And we're not a panda anymore. We're just another scavenger fighting over scraps. We can't defeat darkness by becoming it. We defeat it by staying in the light while carrying better vision than the night creatures that are around us. We've become idiocracy, unfortunately. We're sliding into a world where the average attention span is shorter than a TikTok loop, and the predators are thriving because nobody's reading the fine print anymore. We're out here, unfortunately, being genuinely generous and cooperative, and then acting shocked when the wolf ends up at the door wearing a suit and calling it customer service. Meanwhile, the simple man, you know, the one who walks in truth, doesn't weave webs and refuses to play manipulation games, he looks like a fool to the world. But here's the good news God favors that simple man, not the clever manipulator building the house of cards in a windstorm. The manipulator might win a few rounds, but the simple, shrewd, dove-hearted believer gets the ultimate backing. We've actually gotta have like major pain level of internal discipline, boundaries as rigid as a starched collar. You know, you can be the nicest guy in the room and still be the one who spots the ambush before it springs. Kindness, by the way, is not weakness. It's strength with restraint. The wolf respects the sheep that knows the fence is there for a reason and still chooses to graze in the truth. So stay sharp, implicit bias radio family. Be wise enough to see the hunt coming, harmless enough that our conscience stays clean and faithful enough to know that the good shepherd has already overcome every wolf pack the world can muster. But before we get into our weekly whiskey, we'll dive deeper into the stuff that the big channels on TV may not tell you. We've got to pay some bills around here. We'll be right back after this short commercial break. So don't go anywhere unless the wolves are at your door in case run smart. Cheers. Time for a weekly whiskey on this week's episode of Implicit Bias Radio. I'm your host, Kavan Bordelon. We are back in the Mr. Lester's top secret podcast lair, located somewhere in downtown Lafayette, Louisiana. Let's introduce it to the crew we've got. He is already nose humping that glass to something that is probably a criminal level. He is Caleb Morse, the rustic renegade. Caleb, you seem to be enjoying that one.

SPEAKER_03 6:20

It smells amazing. It really does. Have you not tasted it yet? No, I've been just sitting there sniffing it, thinking about dousing myself in it like cologne. Although I don't think my wife would find that attractive. Maybe Ritter would, which is oddly not strange.

SPEAKER_04 6:34

No, that's that's the funny part. Oddly not strange. So that is Mike the Drip. Trammel. Mike, we'd come up with another nickname for you, hadn't we? Because you didn't like the drip.

SPEAKER_02 6:41

Yeah, the drip, man. It has old man vibes today. Kind of like Ritter. Old man vibes.

SPEAKER_01 6:49

You're wearing two necklaces today.

SPEAKER_04 6:51

So yeah, remember if you gotta talk into the microphone, both of y'all know Ritter, you don't make it on all that often, even though they send the invites.

SPEAKER_01 6:57

I know. Yeah. It was more of a charity, you know, comment thrown at him with his necklaces dripping. Maybe it could be the faucet, Mike the Fawcett.

SPEAKER_02 7:03

One's one's young for the beach and one's show my character, you know, Catholic faith.

SPEAKER_04 7:08

Okay, so I I actually think that he should just be he's DW from here on out. Trammel is DW. He is donkey whiskey on this show henceforth.

SPEAKER_02 7:18

I'll go with it.

SPEAKER_04 7:19

Yeah, yeah. And you're gonna complain about this one too. Yeah, I'm used to it, so yeah, you're gonna, I'm sure you're gonna find something to complain about with this one.

SPEAKER_02 7:25

I'm sure I will, but it's a rare day for me to get a good one.

SPEAKER_04 7:29

Oh, please. You actually have had to admit on this show the amount of good whiskey you've had in the last, what, five appearances? A squirrel gets a nut every so often, come on. Which happens to be 100% for you.

SPEAKER_02 7:40

What do you mean? Lately.

SPEAKER_04 7:41

Lately. Oh, see, he's starting to admit the truth now. Sitting next to the man who will not admit the truth is Lee Ritter. It's great to have you back, Ritter.

SPEAKER_01 7:48

Good day, good day. Uh Tramwell, I'm looking around the bar in front of us, and there's like four bangers right here. Not even counting what's down below. So you you get good stuff, sir. You get good stuff.

SPEAKER_02 7:59

I'm I'm literally looking, and I think I've been on this show for this one right here. Yep. But you But that's not the problem.

SPEAKER_01 8:06

The problem is one, two, three, right in front of me, not counting blue. I mean, they're here. One, two, three, four that I haven't been on the show for. Again, not a problem. When you get here early, there's glass. Oh, just get yourself going early.

SPEAKER_04 8:22

There's glass everywhere. Just get going.

SPEAKER_01 8:24

You don't have to have it on the radio.

SPEAKER_04 8:25

So, Ritter, I I'm gonna apologize because you were having to experience within, you know, what, uh 12 inches seat-wise of you, that what you're gonna have to deal with for the rest of the show.

SPEAKER_01 8:36

It's okay. We've been here before. It's it's it's almost like old hat driving Miss Daisy. He's in the left seat, he's driving today. I'll just say you're you're veering off, sir. Come back.

SPEAKER_04 8:45

There we go. Well, I'm sure he'll find something to veer off on this one, and we'll get you started. So normally with the implicit bias liquor collective, we do nothing but picks. And the way that recording worked for this one, there was a special bottle that was available. And I said, you know, we're just gonna bring this one in. I also know it's one of your all-time favorites, Ritter. So I was like, well, maybe we'll we'll throw Ritter a little bit of a bone. Tramel's gonna be there. So Trammel, I'm sure we'll find something to complain about. There's nothing to complain about this bottle. Well, let's let's start here. So, first of all, this used to be unobtainum.

SPEAKER_01 9:16

Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 9:17

This what, a year, year and a half ago? Uh, maybe a little bit less.

SPEAKER_01 9:20

I would say less. Yeah, I would say probably like six to eight months. Six to eight months, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 9:23

I mean it's absolute unobtainium. This Weller 107 antique. Yep, you could not find hardly anywhere.

SPEAKER_01 9:29

Now yeah, and but now you can find it. You still may be paying upper end pricing, but it's it's on the shelf.

SPEAKER_04 9:36

So it's available. We did a show at the Sazerac house in May. It was on the shelf at the Sazerac house at MSRP. Yeah. So you know that the supply is good and they limit the number of bottles you can purchase in so many days. Correct. But still, the fact that it's on the shelf there tells you the amount of supply that's up there.

SPEAKER_01 9:53

And that's a tourist, that's a touristy area. So people are gonna blow in, they're gonna, eyes are gonna get, you know, uh cartoonish wide and go, ooh. And if it was sitting there for the show and it probably is out the next day, I've been there a couple times for just a tour, which is fantastic. But you know, this bottle's awesome. If you can find one at something that won't cost you your next month rent, you know, grab it for sure. But I think you should be able to.

SPEAKER_04 10:16

So let's start here. Tell us your notes. What do you get on this one? Why is it so special? It's just smooth and caramel.

SPEAKER_01 10:22

It it this is unfortunately should be an everyday drinker. You know, it has the right proof, it hits right. It doesn't make you get all squirmy. You're not wanting or lacking. It doesn't have like a watery taste to it. It's full-bodied. I mean, it check, check, check, check, check, check all the way through. That's what you want. Just check it. Check it out.

SPEAKER_04 10:39

And at 107 proof, it drinks way lower than 107.

SPEAKER_01 10:42

Way lower than 107.

SPEAKER_04 10:44

But it still gives you that robust depth of flavor you expect on something with a proof over 100.

SPEAKER_01 10:48

100% there. But to me, it's a lot of caramel. And it's just smooth. The viscous on it, it's got good drip. It's good. I absolutely love it. All right, trammel.

SPEAKER_04 10:58

Let's go ahead. What do you have to complain about?

SPEAKER_02 11:00

Hey, not every day is a bad day, Kavon. Well, I'm not the one who's usually complaining. I'm listening this one is it's really I've never had this. I I've I've never had this, honestly. Um strong caramel up front. Very, very solid, like it's uh almost like a thick roux, like it has a thick caramel that comes at you. Uh really good up front. I'm getting little hints of a cinnamon kind of as it as it's kind of on your palate. It really reminds me if you if you're comparing it to something kind of like a creme brulee.

SPEAKER_04 11:33

Uh sugar on top, that little bit of burnt sugar.

SPEAKER_02 11:37

So if you put that kind of with the Werther's original, kind of that kind of mixture, that's what I'm kind of getting both sides of.

SPEAKER_04 11:43

Well, I mean, it would make sense because basically caramel is cooked sugar. Right. It's and creme brulee is crisped sugar, burnt to a crisp, right? I mean, it's essentially the same thing, just maybe different textures. Yeah. If that makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 11:54

It's it's heavy, heavy caramel, I will say that. Very, very sweet. Um, I mean, it's a really good. I um I'm impressed. It's it to me, it's kind of like uh what I said earlier, a roux that's really thick. It's really thick. It's it's it's solid. I mean, it's a heavy.

SPEAKER_03 12:09

It's the only way you should make a roux first and foremost. What's that? That's the only way you should make a roux first and foremost.

SPEAKER_04 12:14

And for those who listen outside of Louisiana don't know what a roux is, much less how to make one. Literally, a roux is 50-50 flour to oil in your pot, and you want to get it to almost a chestnut color, like a and you get kind of a pecan aroma.

SPEAKER_03 12:29

Like your chestnut still light, but yeah, like your seat color.

SPEAKER_04 12:32

Yeah, yeah. All that that deep dark caramel before you start adding like your vegetables and stuff like that to create a base for whether it's a gumbo, a stew, whatever it might be. Make some rice. Absolutely. Cook some rice. So, all right, Caleb. I'm curious as to what you think of this 107.

SPEAKER_03 12:48

On the nose, you you definitely get caramel out the gate. Then you get honey, not honey suckle, but like a light, just beautiful, like a locally made clove honey. And then I get like a that that fresh baked bread aroma. You know, not a sourdough, but like a regular bread. Okay. I get that aroma from it as well. And then on the sip, out the gate, I get brown sugar that molds into caramel. Very worth there's original, like, so Mike, you're you're I get what you're saying there exactly. Because it's soft, it's forgiving, but it's not yielding.

SPEAKER_04 13:16

Agreed.

SPEAKER_03 13:16

Right, it's viscous, it's once it wants to be here for a long time. Uh, and then I get like the old school cardboard boxes when you're a kid, you'd buy them for five cents. The cherry sours are the little cherry heads.

SPEAKER_04 13:27

Yeah, I know the ones you're talking about.

SPEAKER_03 13:29

Yeah, that not a Luxardo cherry, but that kind of tart cherry flavor that is just delicious. I get that, and then that nice clean finish. So very soft, it's weeded, right? Yep. So very soft on the palate, very, very easy mouthfeel, almost feels like soft water. Because of that, it's so gentle, so forgiving, but it doesn't give up.

SPEAKER_04 13:49

One of the things that I love about this 107, the Weller lineup, which by the way, you probably missed it at Lester's, it's probably gone by now. They did a 4th of July special. Red, white, and blue. So the red label Weller 107, the white, the CYPB, the blue, the full proof. The 107 to me is kind of the sweet spot, and here's why. I love a good CYPB. The flavors are fantastic. I would like more proof than 90, which is where they're coming in on this release. The Weller Foolproof, I find, sometimes gets a little too edgy. It's still a delicious drinker. But the 107 to me is, I mean, it's almost right in the middle of the CYPB and the full proof. So you get the proof with the flavor and it lingers, it doesn't go away, it's not too weak. I love that you said it's not yielding because this is to me what bourbon really should be. It is that beautiful bold flavor. You get that big caramel, you get those notes of spice on the back end. You're not big on weeded bourbons, Caleb.

SPEAKER_03 14:53

I'm not normally weeded, it's too soft, too gentle. But this is this is sitting down talking to your grandpa and finding out like he scalped Nazis back in the day, right? Yeah. So it's like, well, look, Papo, I love you and you're a great guy, but you used to be a badass. And that's what this is. It's it's just soft enough, just gentle enough. This is Christian masculinity. It's reserved strength, is what I like about it.

SPEAKER_01 15:14

It's it's exactly all that. I mean, foolproof is the frontline fighter. You're you're well a 107. The antique goes right there with it. You know, I'm sitting there listening to all of you after I've already gone, I'm just thinking about it's a good cinnamon roll that's been baked.

SPEAKER_03 15:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:26

Yeah. That, you know, all those minus the icing. Yeah, everybody's described it, and you know, it kind of plays into it's soft gooey in the middle as an old guy, but a nice crust on the outside hits.

SPEAKER_04 15:36

Absolutely, this is one that has been really since they went to the cork top instead of the screw top, just off the charts. And that first release was so good. I found that a couple of releases since then maybe didn't quite live up to it. This one absolutely on point. It's got all the flavors you're looking for. It is soft enough, strong enough, all at the same time. And yeah, I like where you went. It's it's what a man should be. Soft where it needs to be soft, strong and unyielding where it needs to be strong and unyielding. It is just everything you would want to me with bourbon. So I let's go ahead and get the ratings. Because the Morse whiskey rating code, I'm pretty sure we kind of know where this is gonna go.

SPEAKER_01 16:23

Do we just want to do it by you know a show of hands? Let me do it.

SPEAKER_04 16:27

No, because we are also on the radio, so we need everybody's vocal vote, as well as on YouTube, X, Instagram, Facebook, all the places. So Ritter, we'll start with you. Is this a red? You wouldn't drink it even if it was free. Is it a yellow? You would only drink it if it was free. Is it a green, you would buy it, or a blue, you seek this out?

SPEAKER_01 16:42

I mean, for a long time it was a blue because you had to seek it out. But it is a blue, in my opinion. It's kind of becoming the in the the back end of your statement of you don't have to seek it out, Animar. Let it find you now and pay good price.

SPEAKER_04 16:55

It's getting much more available than it used to be, and that's a wonderful thing, which I love. And we're gonna talk about that because we kind of predicted that on the show. Why is it available now? We'll go into Ritter. You did a nice job. Thank you. All right, Trammel, where do you rate this? What up, DW?

SPEAKER_02 17:12

So Caleb Caleb pointed out that it has like a salt water front, kind of like a uh Okay, in the water business, like a Fiji has a very soft front whenever you put it like when you first when you take the first sip out of the bottle, and this has that same feel. I really like that. Uh if um if there's a new drinker to bourbon, this would be perfect. In my opinion.

SPEAKER_04 17:33

You don't think so? Here's the only reason I'm gonna argue with you. If you are new to bourbon, this might ruin you right out of the gate. Yeah, but we'd like to do it. As opposed to starting with as opposed to starting with a similar, same company that owns it, starting with if you're brand new to bourbon, get a buffalo trace 90 proof, start there. Right? Maybe even start with the weller, just regular special reserve weed it, 90 proof.

SPEAKER_02 18:00

I just think that uh a new bourbon drinker would be looking for something that's really sweet. And something that compared to with the caramel in this, that the overwhelming caramel that comes out of this one, in my opinion. You know, I'm not a bourbon snob like y'all are.

SPEAKER_04 18:15

You're becoming one. It's okay. No, no, no. I mean, considering as many things as you call a donkey.

SPEAKER_02 18:21

There's work to be done. Um I definitely it's definitely a blue. Um, this is something I would seek out. Something uh I I really would drink this one again. It's it's it's it's pretty solid.

SPEAKER_03 18:33

Outstanding. All right, Caleb. Blue. Like, I don't have to think about it. No more descriptors. Blue.

SPEAKER_04 18:40

This is to me one of those, no doubters. I mean, this is when you are calling a baseball game, when you are watching a baseball game, and you see the ball come off the bat, and you're like, oh, that's gone. There is no doubt from the swing of the bat and the velocity of the ball, the exit VLO that you're like, oh, that is absolutely 100% a home run. That's what this is from the second you open the bottle. Because notice there was no neck pour really off of this bottle. Nothing was necky at all. Absolutely fantastic. What's that? That's because I shook it up. No, you didn't, because you didn't even know where the bottle was. You had trouble getting the bottle open. I did, it kicked my butt open. You had trouble, which kind of shocked me.

SPEAKER_03 19:17

I'm like, I didn't use my knife, you know.

SPEAKER_04 19:19

You don't need a knife, it's got a pull tap. Yeah, the pull tap bit me. And the funny part is the guy who I'm like, oh, that dude probably just rolls through pain like nothing is like, oh, my thumb! My thumb. I got I got a bobo. Okay, so let's talk about why because we've established that this is a blue. Let's talk about why this is becoming more available. It's one of those whiskey conversations that we were kind of necessarily privy to, but there were some signs and little bits of evidence along the way. There were some tea leaves that you knew what was going on when you saw the amount of whiskey that was being produced 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020. And we actually said the bubble is getting ready to pop because this bottle would go for easily 150. Easy. Six, eight months ago. Easy. People would get 150 for this bottle. And for those who don't know, that's about three times the MSRP.

SPEAKER_01 20:12

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we talked about the bubble and and the buildup, and really the the top of the bell curve was was what happened just over six years ago with COVID when everybody sat and drank. So the bubble was building. Everybody and started enjoying stuff. And then it was like the run was on. Like there was a buildup, and then the run was on. Everybody seeked out bottles, got drunk during the day, and was like, I want all of it. And so the production tripled. And now we're now we're at a we're at a point where that that production is beyond caught up and they've started to stop production. Well, it's all about the lag. And that's it. I mean it's a four and a half year lag, five years lag minimum, you know, for this, you know, just to start and then you go from there, you know.

SPEAKER_04 20:56

So and we are now just approaching that nine, 10 year mark from when everything really started ramping up in production, which means that over the next year to two to five years, we are probably going to see redonkulous plaid amounts of whiskey that were previously unavailable at MSRP pretty much everywhere. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 21:22

And then when you could find it, some places were selling it secondary, and some people were selling it themselves at tertiary, right? And you're like, well, I love it. So I'm waiting for it. And then I think what we're going to see now is the surplus of inventory that's available. MSRP on most of the stuff we drink is very appropriate. When you think about what goes into making it. Yeah. Well, appropriate and appropriate. Because when you think about what goes into making a bottle of bourbon, there's a lot of effort and a lot of time and a lot of people that go through that, right? So I think that your normal retail prices, you're not going to see a difference there. But I think the secondary market's going to take a massive hit. Secondary already is taking a massive hit.

SPEAKER_01 21:58

If you if if you're on any kind of the paid Or talk to people like you know, all of our partners and all that, you know, they used to get slugged with make friends and smiley creepy guys. I don't think that's happening much anymore. You know, and if you're looking to build your bar and you see a price you don't like, just wait. Just wait. Because it's you're at, you're at where if you're at the beach and you see the swells coming in and you see that first sandbar and you're like, oh, they're breaking. And then you're like, oh, that's a good breaker. Wait, my friend, we'll get into the next. And then when it comes to the, then you're gonna see the break and it's gonna be even better. And you'll be like, oh, all I will do is just wait a little bit, honey. It'll be fine. And you'll be and you'll recover and you're gonna collect some great stuff.

SPEAKER_04 22:36

And this is a scenario where I think we're actually gonna be able to predict some of what is available for this reason. Because of age statements on bottles, we are now going to start approaching a time when those bottles are just sitting. Couple that with the massive decline in alcohol consumption in the last two years. Oh, yeah. So now you've got distillers sitting on a glut of inventory. The demand is nowhere near what it was four, five years ago, or three, four years ago, or two years ago, or a year ago. And now bottles like this are gonna start to become available.

SPEAKER_01 23:09

And real quick, one thing to pay attention to with the glut that's coming out is all the private labels that'll be flowing because they're gonna offload all of this good stuff. Just watch where they're coming from from the distilleries and the age statements, and you can predict this may be labeled Joe Blow's groceries. But it could be the same stuff.

SPEAKER_04 23:26

Speaking of which, we do need to award the What Would You Pay Championship Belt Chain. We're gonna do that right now. It's gonna go two-box drop of Lafayette, which is Mike Trammell. Donkey Whiskey gets to wear the What Would You Pay championship belt chain as we return on Implicit Bias Radio. Implicit Bias Radio back on the air. And you know, it the news dropped on Sunday. We air on Saturday, so of course we have to talk about what happened with Lindsey Graham over the weekend that was I don't want to say absolutely shocking news. I mean, the man's 71 years old, but he appeared to be in good health. And let's just say that first of all, as we have never done on this show, we are never, regardless of party, thrilled about the death of a human being. That is not something that we advocate on this show, regardless of what you believe. Human life is valuable. I'm sure there are people tap dancing right now because of what happened to Lindsey Graham. I'm sure people tap dance about politicians. We don't do that. But what we do do, and I just said uh yeah, you caught it.

SPEAKER_03 24:32

I said doo-doo.

SPEAKER_04 24:33

Um That's because the people that do that behave that way are doo-doo. Correct. What we do is we do ask questions on this show. And I think there's a lot of timely questions that need to come surrounding the death of Lindsey Graham. And let's be honest, lawmakers are already calling out, hey, we got questions.

SPEAKER_01 24:52

There's a lot of information flow that happens in this country 24-7. We know about we know what happened to him pretty quick. This is amazing facts that have started coming out. And and we we probably won't know his total medical what ha happened. I just don't think we're going to because he's 71. People have heart attacks. But where was he the last 24 to 48 hours? What what happened where he was at? Yeah, right before he died.

SPEAKER_04 25:17

He not like the last before the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:19

But right before he died. Prior to his passing, where were his travels, Caleb? Where might he have been? Didn't he spend a bunch of time in Tel Aviv? Um, not on this recent travel. He was he was recently in Turkey for the big NATO meetings. And then he uh stopped over at this little country that has a flag of uh yellow and blue Ukrainian flag and tour of a of a warehouse or a factory or something? It was it was a factory.

SPEAKER_04 25:45

Yeah, it was a was correct. It was a drone factory. So let's let's lay out that timing here. The what 48 hours before he passes or before they announce his passing, Lindsey Graham is in Ukraine visiting a drone factory, which after he leaves gets destroyed by Russia very very quickly. Now, I am of the opinion that this because people have been saying, oh, we think Russia might have tried to poison him. We think the I don't think Russia would want to get rid of Lindsey Graham when it's highly possible that Lindsey Graham is the one who maybe helped Russia find that particular drone in factory.

SPEAKER_01 26:28

He was the rabbit.

SPEAKER_04 26:29

Yeah. Potentially. There's there's a a world here where maybe Russia doesn't know exactly where that drone factory is, and they want to know so a precision strike can be made. And if Lindsey Graham is there and happens to take a picture and the geolocation is on in said picture, that facility can get eliminated very, very quickly.

SPEAKER_03 26:50

Well, and that's how easy it is for information to get out there, too. We don't realize the metadata and everything else that's stored in each photograph that you take. You know, and Lindsey Graham was just going to Ukraine to talk about sanctions and everything else, things that we could do against or for both of the countries to try to leverage them into a more peaceful situation.

SPEAKER_01 27:06

And did you see the video of his conversations? He's a 71-year-old man that looked pretty spry and aware of things. He's sharp. He was sharp. So it's very interesting. Like you said, though. And look, this is we're in the early hours, guys. We're in the morning phase. That the right, as we're recording, the media is heaping praise and saying how good he was and how he was the behind-the-scenes guy that Trump would talk to to talk to the other side. He was a good intermediary, those sorts of things.

SPEAKER_04 27:32

But okay, so now we need to expand that conversation because you said that Trump would talk to. Interesting conversation and comments from Donald Trump the Sunday morning, right after Lindsey Graham is announced to have died.

SPEAKER_01 27:47

Do we know it's Sunday morning or do we know it's Saturday night? It came out Sunday morning. Yeah, it came out this morning. I think I don't know what happened. I haven't heard the recorded time.

SPEAKER_04 27:54

The recorded, the recording that was visible on social media Sunday morning came from the Sunday morning shows. So it is the first that we are hearing from President Trump after the death announcement for Lindsey Graham. And Trump says, I talked to him, and he actually says we spoke last night.

SPEAKER_01 28:12

And that's what I'm trying to get at. I think was it Sunday morning or Saturday?

SPEAKER_04 28:14

Probably Sunday morning. And Trump says he was, you know, probably sounded a little tired. He had a right to be. He was very busy. He was a worker. And then says, Lindsay told me that we were ready to go on the Save America Act. Now, this is why to me this starts to start getting in the realm of, okay, is this possible or is it probable? What's the probability that we have two Republican senators at the same time? One who it has announced that he dies. The other is potentially the turtle.

SPEAKER_01 28:51

And I was gonna say, But he's he's a he's a retiring senator. He's a retiring senator. But he's a Republican vote. And he's a Republican vote. Or should be a Republican vote.

SPEAKER_04 28:59

And he's glitched a couple times on TV. And we have not seen him in four to six weeks, other than allegedly coming from a townhome with his feet being exposed.

SPEAKER_01 29:09

Dangling lifeless feet and no no uh efforts to perform life-saving maneuvers in said ambulance.

SPEAKER_03 29:16

And what we're seeing too is is the different factions putting information out and then withholding information too, you know. Uh and and they're both very different people, right? Graham, uh Trump's first election, everything else, Graham, and he butted heads quite a few times.

SPEAKER_00 29:29

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:29

Right. And then now we see in in this presidency, they were golf buddies, they hung out, they communicated regularly. And I'm not going to tell you that Graham was a huge supporter of Trump, but he was a confidant, and I believe you turned into a more of a friend, because you have to have friends that tell you the truth, that tell you that they agree or disagree, not just yes men.

SPEAKER_04 29:46

So at this point, what stands out to me is that you have legislation that, if passed, would effectively destroy any hopes of Democrat victories on a national scale.

SPEAKER_01 30:03

Pending challenge in the Supreme Court, because it will get challenged. It would get challenged, but the Save America Act.

SPEAKER_04 30:11

But this legislation of the Save America Act requiring a voter ID that shows American citizenship to vote would absolutely I don't want to say absolutely secure because when digital is involved, things can get altered anyway, but would go a long way to completely securing American elections for only American voters. And now all of a sudden, you have two Republicans who should be voting when Republicans have the majority.

SPEAKER_01 30:39

Slim as it is, but still have the majority. How many votes has the Senate had this year? Like seven.

SPEAKER_04 30:45

On what? Inconsequently. There we go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:49

And to that took a larger picture.

SPEAKER_04 30:50

Yeah, and I mean, and look at what Thune has done, which so for those who don't know, breathed, eat, slept. Thun Thune has done worse than breathe, eat, sleep. He has kept a senator in Washington, D.C. when they are in recess to technically convene so that recess appointments cannot happen by this president. And go look at the number of recess appointments every previous president has received versus what Donald Trump has been able to do via recess appointment. And it is obvious the Republicans don't like him, or Thune doesn't like him.

unknown 31:22

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 31:23

Right? The Democrats obviously don't like him.

SPEAKER_01 31:25

No, they love him right now. Nothing's getting done.

SPEAKER_04 31:27

Well, but no, they love Thune.

SPEAKER_01 31:29

That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04 31:29

They don't love Trump. That's right. And that's what I'm talking about, is Trump. But my point is, you know, if everybody hates a particular politician, he's probably not good for any of the politicians, which is the best logic we can come up with. But going back to the Lindsey Graham thing, the timing seems awfully questionable. And you brought up a great point. You know, people have heart attacks, especially if you listen to the church commission.

SPEAKER_01 31:55

Right.

SPEAKER_04 31:56

Okay, what am I referencing with the church commission that you didn't put together?

SPEAKER_01 32:00

There's some people out there that like like for people to fall down and and and just die.

SPEAKER_04 32:04

So please don't believe us on this. But the church commission, which was convened all 40, 50 years ago, actually had testimony from the intelligence community that said, we developed a heart attack gun. Yep. It is a pressurized pistol that shoots a shard of ice that is poisoned into someone's body that will cause a heart attack that is virtually untraceable.

SPEAKER_03 32:27

Yeah, because the ice melts, everything else, the and then I don't even think it was a virus, I think it was a bacteria that you used. Yeah, with some self-metabolizing metabolism. That way it would go through, and by the time you got checked, everything's gone.

SPEAKER_04 32:36

You're you're dead. Yep. And you have to now wonder, so somebody comes back seemingly healthy. Oh, the pufferfish toxin. I think it was a puffer fishing. I think it's what it was. Yeah, which is, as anybody who eats sushi knows, one of those things that you want to and don't want to eat at the same time, because in Japan, chefs have to be licensed to serve blowfish because of the toxicity of what I think it's the liver of the fish.

SPEAKER_01 33:02

It's a gland I don't eat sushi, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 33:04

It's a gland in the fish that's so incredibly poisonous to human beings. But my point is you now start to look at at where we have gone, the timing, you start looking at, oh, he seemed to be healthy, the comments that are made about the Save America Act, the fact that, you know, the the tortoise is out, the turtle is out.

SPEAKER_01 33:24

I mean, he's deaf. We don't know that he's dead or not officially on this show as of this moment.

SPEAKER_03 33:28

Unfortunately, no. I mean, I think I don't think we'll I don't think we're gonna see anything from in a while because no matter how no matter what way it goes, right? Let's say he's still alive and he's recovering. They've hidden so much they're not gonna come up with anything. So let's say he did expire. They've hidden so much they're not gonna come up with anything either.

SPEAKER_01 33:43

It's funny though, because I was I was texting my best friend in Dallas this morning about this, and we're talking about just in general, members of Congress, both sides of the party, both houses that are out on long-term illnesses. Yes. But yet proxy voting still happens.

SPEAKER_04 33:58

Well, I when is it the last time? I think Maxine Waters has only been in Washington, D.C. like three days, but that's what has still voted every time.

SPEAKER_01 34:05

That's what I'm getting at is how does this happen? That where's our representation? I don't have her secretary in that seat. I voted her to be there. Not present, can't vote.

SPEAKER_04 34:15

But still makes sense. But still collecting $176,000 a year or $174, something like that.

SPEAKER_01 34:23

Where is she? Has anybody done a health and wellness check? What's that Shirley kid? We need him to go down there and go for that.

SPEAKER_03 34:30

Does that go back to the maybe they should have their physical fitness exams and all that kept as public knowledge?

SPEAKER_04 34:35

I I don't know, but I do have a question that we're gonna have to investigate in the final segment of hour one of this week's episode of Implicit Bias Radio. Because I think Ritter might have hit the nail on the head with this one, which the question is: if the people aren't there voting and in charge, who is? And there is a theory that goes back almost 10 years that tells us maybe somebody else is pulling the strings in DC. We'll talk about that when we come back on Implicit Bias Radio. Final segment of the first hour of this week's episode of Implicit Bias Radio. Do not forget the weekly whiskey special is actually a multi-monthly weekly special at Mr. Lester Steakhouse at Cypress Bayou Casino. They are still featuring Caleb through the month of July, implicit barrel pours, five dollars for the first pour, ten dollars after that, or heck, just buy the whole bottle for 50 bucks in the restaurant.

SPEAKER_03 35:22

I can't tell you how many people I've talked to. They're like, man, I went there to buy it, and uh, we sat down in the restaurant and they were like, you should buy a bottle while you're here, and then we're surprised by the price. Because at $50 in a restaurant. In the restaurant, it's it's ridiculous. It really is, especially for the quality of that bottle. Maybe I'm a little biased.

SPEAKER_04 35:39

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SPEAKER_02 36:12

Well, we come on, Drip. We've got advertisement right here. We've got plenty of other places I don't.

SPEAKER_01 36:19

I love that he's making excuses for it now. It says implicit buys on the back.

SPEAKER_02 36:22

I don't feel like I actually won the the award this week. You did. Oh, you feel like it was a gimme. Literally. It was like a little a pity. You got it because you come to the party.

SPEAKER_04 36:33

Okay, so so that so then let's do this. So no, so then let's do this. All right, Tramel. Closest to the hole. How much do you think this bottle would run? MSRP?

SPEAKER_02 36:42

Right now. Right now. MSRP. Well, this is gonna be uh a gimmick right here. Are we gonna go around the table? We're gonna go around, yeah. We're gonna go uh I'm gonna say 89.

SPEAKER_04 36:51

89 dollars Ritter. Hmm.

SPEAKER_02 36:54

Oh, yeah, you're gonna make those.

SPEAKER_01 36:58

I'm trying to decide how bad I want to flop it. I'll go, what did you say? 89? He said 89.

SPEAKER_02 37:03

289.

SPEAKER_01 37:04

No, I'll go 115. 115, Caleb.

SPEAKER_04 37:08

$1 for every one proof.

unknown 37:11

Good.

SPEAKER_04 37:12

Well, gee, at a $56 bottle, it appears that Mike DW Trammell has won the what would you pay JP and Chibel Jane? Because he was closest at $89.

SPEAKER_03 37:22

And isn't it a bargain at that? This is a participation trophy. It's not uh it's not a real trophy.

SPEAKER_01 37:26

Set up.

SPEAKER_03 37:27

Yep, it is. Speaking of participation trophies, y'all have been y'all have been blowing up recently with Box Drop 2, haven't you? Yes, man.

SPEAKER_02 37:33

We've been really the businesses really. I actually started this business as a tax write-off because we sold two businesses in one year. I'll be honest. I'll be flat out on it. But I am amazed how busy we've been. We've we've done really well in the public sector and the oil field sector has been.

SPEAKER_03 37:48

Well, and I don't think people realize like y'all do commercial as well. You do oil field, you can do mattresses and off of there, you can do hotels, everything else. We can do everything.

SPEAKER_02 37:54

Um it's it's the business is unlimited, and we're looking to expand here in the future. So that's awesome. Very, very good.

SPEAKER_04 38:00

That is awesome. Yeah. Now put the chain on. Anyway. Exactly. Like, great. All right, back to the conversation we were having in last segment where you know Lee made a good point, wondering. So the Senate really has not taken a whole bunch of votes in the last almost two years now, since the 2025 inauguration. You start looking at who's actually there and voting. You got a lot of proxy votes coming in. You've got senators who have been sick for now six to eight weeks. We haven't heard anything from them. We don't know if they're alive or dead. We now have the Lindsey Graham situation where it announces that he's passed and he's died the weekend before we air the show. And you start wondering who really is controlled in control.

SPEAKER_03 38:43

And that's what confused me because the proxy votes, like, I thought that they could do a proxy while like in committee, right? I didn't realize that they could do a proxy vote while on the floor. They can phone it in.

SPEAKER_01 38:53

Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_04 38:54

Which is just dumb. Your job is to be there to vote and make laws for the American people. Their job is to make sure that we're heard. So you know what I think they're proving? I think they're proving we don't need them. We don't need a whole bunch of new laws. We need a couple that are important. We don't need a ton.

SPEAKER_02 39:11

Trample? So when you say a proxy vote, so like a senator can be in California and they actually post the vote in Washington, D.C. Correct. That's so they Correct.

SPEAKER_04 39:19

So I can be here in Louisiana, I can have someone that is my authorized proxy. Allegedly, the theory is that I have told them how to vote on a particular bill or whatever it might be.

SPEAKER_01 39:31

And most importantly, about that proxy call in, you know what that person has to have? An ID. ID. Oh. No, no. They well, that too, maybe. But they must have ID to stand and vote.

SPEAKER_04 39:45

So wait, you're telling me that in order for them to stand and vote in DC on a law for the American people, they have to have an ID.

SPEAKER_01 39:52

Not just a law. Anything that goes through Congress that requires a vote. Resolution, whatever it may be. Yeah, that's what requires a recorded vote, must have ID.

SPEAKER_03 40:01

And what's frustrating is like it's not like they work 361 days a year, right? I mean, they try to travel, my friend. Yeah, they travel, they do this, that.

SPEAKER_04 40:09

But no, they go in session and then they get vacation. You should just get vote from vacation.

SPEAKER_03 40:13

You should be able to focus and make time to make sure that the people that you were supposed to represent have proper representation. Uh I I mean, I could see proxy votes for, hey, if if Lindsey Graham had a vote coming up and things were going poorly and all that, a sudden medical issue, or we have an exemption for it.

SPEAKER_04 40:28

Or if Lindsay has to be in Ukraine for US business.

SPEAKER_03 40:32

There, I mean that stuff you normally have time to prepare, yeah. And things can be heard, and we can like prepare and make sure it's done right. I don't I don't believe, I don't approve, nor do I condone someone being off doing some something that I would probably think is stupid and casting a pro uh a proxy vote.

SPEAKER_04 40:51

Well, here's the question to me if they're not there controlling things, who is? And there's a conspiracy theory that's probably right again on this one, because somebody out there is probably gonna flag us for this, but that's fine. There was this whole Q thing seven, eight, nine years ago. I mean, I don't even know when it kind of ended, but I know it ended several years ago. Apparently, they stopped posting this group that was supposedly Q, but it always said the military's in control. Right? That saying was always patriots are in control. So my question is are we number one seeing that we really maybe don't need lawmakers as much as the lawmakers would want us to believe we need them? That's number one. Number two, are there people pulling the strings on our lawmakers? And have they been pulling the strings on our lawmakers forever? I'm talking like the sandlot forever. I don't mean just this cue thing. I mean we're people pulling the strings well before that.

SPEAKER_03 41:54

I mean, I can tell you right now people are pulling the strings, but let me let me do this too, though. I think that we 100% need our lawmakers, our senators and congressmen, but not the way we have them today. Agreed. Right. I think that we should go back to the original way where they were they were elected by the people and represented the people. You shouldn't have somebody that's been in office for however many terms, and that now all of a sudden they're worth millions or millions of dollars.

SPEAKER_01 42:16

So so what you're saying is repeal the 17th Amendment to start. We need to have equal and proper representation. And people don't realize how important that that amendment is. Very, very simply, that 17th amendment made it statewide elections for your state senators to represent us, as opposed to the state senators were were elected from the House in your state, and at any time could be recalled. Their maximum service was six-year terms. But if you didn't like it, they could recall them. And how important is that? Because Mike, if you're my representative and I'm pissed off in DC, I'm gonna tell you, I'm voting you out. Yep. What you gonna do about it? Well, and people don't get it.

SPEAKER_04 42:56

Here's the other really interesting part of that. There has been talk of, oh, what if we did get rid of it? What would the Senate look like? We talked about a very slim majority right now in Washington, D.C. for the Republican Party. If they repeal the 17th Amendment and you look at the number of House of Representatives, state House of Representatives across the country, the Republicans, again, might never see a Democrat majority.

SPEAKER_01 43:23

Well, uh the fairness way to do this is as Vivek said it in the run-up to the election, is import uh insert term limits, but everybody who is in is exempt until they retire or die. So the seat is term limited, not the person currently. Okay. So that if you want to run for four more terms and you're healthy enough, go ahead. When that seat becomes open, when it becomes vacated, then it goes to the next one. Then it goes into term limited. So you would end up seeing a cascade over time, which I think is a band aid and a fairness way to do it. And Vivek brought it up, and you can go Google search how he explains it very well. And I just was like, That that's the way to do it. You're not kicking anyone out. You're not saying sorry, you got to go. It's, hey, you can serve for as long as you serve. If you resign, if you if you Matt Gates and resign because you're going to go do something uh for the president and you don't get, you know, picked to go into one of these committees. Okay, that seat now becomes available and it's term limited. It then allows you to then apply the rule equally over time, and you can plan your political career and your exit career. So we might see more corruption. Who knows?

SPEAKER_04 44:26

It also solves for the transfer of knowledge problem. 100%. Because the big thing that people like to lean on is, oh, if everybody goes, we don't have that institutional knowledge. We need to keep things going.

SPEAKER_03 44:36

That's the beauty of it, too, is when our nation first started, we didn't have the same institutional knowledge.

SPEAKER_01 44:40

I heard that on the news today. And somebody said, Yeah, well, thank God for the staff and members because you know they know how things are working. And I'm like, they're also the ones that are probably the most likely causing. Every one of those staff members needs to have a four-year window and move on.

SPEAKER_04 44:53

And here's the big reason why: because we are incentive-based creatures. And we are incentivized now by the one-minute finger to tell you to come back and catch the rest of this conversation in hour two of Implicit Bias Radio, which is always more fun. Why? Because there's more weekly whiskey and there's more solving the problems of the world right after this. The Mr. Lester's top secret podcast layer is back open for business. I'm Kavon Bortle on your host for Implicit Bias Radio. Welcome back into the show where we've got the Rustic Renegade who is still enjoying some Weller 107, which I'm amazed that you don't have more in your glass.

SPEAKER_03 45:23

Well, this is my third glass. Ah, that's what I'm trying to behave.

SPEAKER_04 45:26

And because we are recording early. We're recording on an early afternoon as opposed to our normal evening record time. So yeah, I appreciate that. I'm sure everybody helps self-restraint. Every now and then is a good thing. To the bar, we've got Lee Ritter, who I'm shocked, Ritter isn't in on glass four or five by now. Oh, he's on three.

SPEAKER_01 45:45

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 45:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:47

Hey, hey, hey.

SPEAKER_04 45:48

I'm about to say judgment at the bar.

SPEAKER_01 45:50

Yeah. Slow down, Mr. Mr. I don't wear my own bling, and I'm offended that there's nothing good on the bar, which is probably better than anything you have at your house. You can hear that little song, day drinking, going on back here.

SPEAKER_04 46:00

Hey, it's five o'clock somewhere, right? Hey. Let's go. There we go. All right. So let's dive back into the topics that make implicit bias radio what it is. As we were kind of finishing up the last segment talking about just all the things that are going on in Washington, D.C. And I think we are now on top of, you know, whether it's the 17th Amendment that needs to go, whatever it might be. Ritter again made a comment that sparks more conversation, which isn't always a good thing, but in this case it is. When he said it's the bureaucrats, it's the staff members that need to go. And we recently saw a Supreme Court decision that allows for the president to just fire certain levels of the government because they align to the executive branch and take a guess whose job it is to control the executive branch.

SPEAKER_01 46:45

Shocker. Would it be the big guy? It would be the executive. Or the big guy.

SPEAKER_04 46:49

It would be the executive, right? It wouldn't be the big guy anymore, thank goodness, because the big guy got his 10% and apparently went. And we are now seeing that apparently there's a lot of reporting around the chaos at the EAC. The Election Assistance Commission in Washington, D.C.

SPEAKER_01 47:07

First of all, did anybody know what the EAC is? Did you know that? Did anyone have a clue what the EAC is? Okay, thank you.

SPEAKER_04 47:14

And this I think is a great point for this reason. We're relatively informed when it comes to politics, what's happening, the procedures, the processes with our government. But this is how deep the bureaucratic layers are. How many layers you're going to find? Because I guarantee if you asked 95 to 99% of the US population, none of them would have known that there's a thing called the Election Assistance Commission in Washington, D.C.

SPEAKER_01 47:44

Okay, quick little reference back to the beginning of this current term of this president, whenever Doge found when you're a government worker and you retire, everything's in a vault underground by paper. Yep. Everybody has an iPhone, they're giving away free iPhones. You can go to the library, everything's digital. But your form to retire from the government is probably printed on dot matrix.

SPEAKER_04 48:07

So let's let's get even let's get even deeper. And this is a conversation I was fortunate enough to have with some state level officials when Doge was working. Because they quit. What I did not realize was this. People automatically assume as we get into the bureaucracy and we're going to talk about the EAC a little more, but I like this rabbit hole. People would think if you're on federal government assistance, that that check comes from the federal government to you, if it happens here in Louisiana, that it shows up in your bank in southern Louisiana at any given time whenever it's supposed to. Wrong. Here's the way it works the bulk amount of dollars goes to the state for the people it is supposed to support. The state then distributes to the people who are on the rolls in the state. Take a guess who's got zero visibility as to who's getting that money. The federal government. No idea because the two systems did not communicate as to who was getting what. And what they were finding in the state of Louisiana when they started talking to other states is you might have had a Joey bag of donuts who lived in Louisiana at a particular address getting federal government assistance. That same Joey bag of donuts was living in Texas and getting federal assistance in Texas. And then living in Alabama, yet a Joey bag of donuts in Mississippi and one in Tennessee. Five, six, seven states, and the bank accounts were just all different, but it was all compounding because that level of communication, because the bureaucracies that are in the way are a problem. Now, here's where this ties in to the story that we have now. The EAC partial opinion. The EAC oversees election assistance to individual states. I might have been born at night, but I was not born last night. And if you're gonna tell me that the EAC has visibility to what goes on in every state, they don't. And the the the wolves that are out there, as we talked about in the monologue, realize that the blind spot that no one can see or facilitate or control or audit is the gap between what the EAC is sending to states, whether it's ballots, whether it's mail-in, whatever it might be, and how the states are managing the individual part of that. It's a massive, massive black hole that I would argue votes are just disappearing into.

SPEAKER_01 50:27

Quick question for the everyone in the room. Recently, how many times have you gotten a ballot in the mail? Multiple times, or if ever, compared six years ago to 10 years ago? Still never. Okay, you've never had some, but yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:43

You've gotten some now. I would say probably a little more frequently because the EAC came out in 2002 as well.

SPEAKER_01 50:48

Correct. So I'm gonna I'm gonna make a pitch here that there's some of us that are a little bit younger than others in the room, and somehow we got on a list, or somehow you got on a list. Yeah. Again, I'm just the black, you didn't make a list for some reason. We made a list. I've gotten multiple ballots for things I didn't sign up for and or have already pre-voted or nearly voting. And so to your point about this commission, I mean, there was, I think it was a presidential election. I could have voted three times plus in person. And my wife was like six. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 51:19

This is ridiculous. That sounds about right because I think they're trying to over not over-efficienize, but they're trying to make that's a over-efficientize, mega efficient. They're trying to like make efficienize. Make it very, very efficient. But by doing such, they're giving you too many ways to be able to enact certain things.

SPEAKER_01 51:36

You want to mix your remote schedule.

SPEAKER_03 51:38

And what you have to look at too is the EAC, what I'm looking at here, the EAC's role is voluntary as far as the state level, right? So there are many levels of our government that I don't want talking to other levels of our government. Agreed. Right? So I'm not telling you that every part of the government should communicate because we have things like privacy laws that we want to enact, and certain people and certain officials shouldn't be able to see that. And the same thing when it comes to your medical history, your firearm ownership, all that kind of stuff. These shouldn't be shared. But we should have a form of government that does have a means to communicate within itself.

SPEAKER_04 52:10

So before we go to Mike, I'm gonna say this. This is where we're gonna disagree a bit. The federal government should know if I voted, not who I voted for. Yes. And therein lies the problem. That's why the government has to communicate. But how do we limit that?

SPEAKER_02 52:26

Trammel? On these ballots, were there something that was showing that I'm I'm interested because I've never received one of these. Is there something that showed that they're like you could vote six times, or is it what it duplicated it?

SPEAKER_01 52:37

So it was multiple times leading up to the election, right? So mainly post-COVID, because they wanted to make sure everybody had an opportunity and you didn't want to vote in person. It was this ballot. It was like your presidential ballot. It didn't really have our local people the first couple times. Wasn't it like green and white or something like that? I I think the first one or two was green and white, then like a green and blue or blue and white, something like that. And it was mainly all of the nation uh national elections that was made sure it was covered in. It's an official vote. It it had all this official stuff on it. I mean, it was weird.

SPEAKER_02 53:05

And this it could be duplicated? Like he got it multiple times. No, I got it multiple times. But that's what I'm saying. Like yours was it individual? Would it count as individual vote vote?

SPEAKER_01 53:14

Okay, so there's no record of me. Once I go and vote, there's nobody that says, and this is to the point, like, oh, Lee's voted. Yeah. Don't send him another one. And it's not like the ballots were there's nothing for that.

SPEAKER_03 53:22

They weren't serialized.

SPEAKER_01 53:23

The government exists what I'm asking. It just had your pre-printed name and a return envelope prepaid.

SPEAKER_04 53:28

And this is why the terminology that the left uses here is so important. They don't say make sure every citizen's vote counts. They say make sure every vote counts. So if the if the mail-ins aren't serialized, if there's not some way to identify a unique marker, now all of a sudden, you've got Ritter getting six ballots in the mail, potentially. He sends in all six, he shows up, he votes in person, and they go, Oh, every vote has to count. Well, do how do we know this one came from Ritter? I mean, think about the amount of work it would take to have someone sit down and audit every single mail in ballot, especially when all the auditors get thrown out. Right.

SPEAKER_01 54:10

It goes out of adjudication. Right, or it depends on what it depends on whose side you're on to get thrown out. But I mean, it comes back down to if we can do this in the Middle East where the day of you vote and you dip your finger in blue ink paint and you voted, you can't go back in. They know. Yeah, that finger and friend has voted.

SPEAKER_03 54:27

Or you need IDs to do that sort of stuff too.

SPEAKER_04 54:29

So Caleb's like, I had a thought.

SPEAKER_03 54:31

Yep, I had it there, it was gone.

SPEAKER_04 54:33

Well, and I hate to say this, this goes back to the the old saying who votes doesn't matter, who counts the votes does. 100%. Because even if, even if you have a blue finger and that finger, uh that finger voted, you can align the fingerprint with a person, you can create it. But the work to do that amongst 350 million people, that's not the voting populace. The voting populace is what, 180?

SPEAKER_01 54:57

180 or so is the age and the and the ones that are.

SPEAKER_04 54:59

But therein lies my point, which is you've now got people on the back end who are counting, and they are not counting. This is why, and believe it or not, this is why and how this conversation ties into crypto so incredibly importantly.

SPEAKER_01 55:13

But but it's so easy to the point of providing ID that can get scanned when you go when you go to buy alcohol. It's easy to do. You're good.

SPEAKER_03 55:22

It's easy to us. You have to think the the government officials try to leave things open for interpretation. That's where I was going to go, right? And as long as they're open for as long as the interpretation is broad, individual uh adjunctees or auditors or anything else can go and say, Well, I believe it says this. Well, I believe doesn't matter. It's the law says this is what it should be. The method to vote is this, and you shouldn't have such freedom to where you can deny people rights based upon mundane things.

SPEAKER_04 55:49

Which is why the blockchain of crypto is so important. And people are like, wait, we're talking about voting. Why are you talking about crypto? I'm talking about crypto for this reason. Blockchain technology is verifiable in the moment, in seconds. Very accountable. It is also, and this depends upon the blockchain that's out there, it is also anonymous. So it can say, hey, we're not exactly sure who Kavan voted for, but we can say Kavan's identification, which has been verified, has now shown up in the voting booth. We don't know who he voted for, but we know that the transaction occurred. That's all a vote is. A vote is a transaction. Yeah. And utilizing blockchain in order to verify that an individual has voted is incredibly important. And to me, it's why you're not seeing the Clarity Act run through so quickly. Because once these guardrails are in and this all becomes evident, it's going to be light speed, in my opinion. We will see another, you know, techno boom like we saw in the 90s. It's a leap.

SPEAKER_01 56:53

Well, you're gonna see that you're gonna see the curtain from Oz being pulled back, the reality of what is happening and the falsehoods that have been pitched. It's it's gonna be scary for some folks out there. Someone has gonna be a lot of control about that.

SPEAKER_03 57:05

Someone's gonna make the argument because they already have that not everyone has an ID, though. Some people are too poor to have an ID.

SPEAKER_04 57:12

So here's the really interesting part with blockchain, you don't necessarily have to have a driver's license because you have a birth certificate.

SPEAKER_03 57:21

Oh my.

SPEAKER_04 57:21

It can be tied and verified to the birth certificate, and you can use fingerprints.

SPEAKER_01 57:28

But if you weren't born here.

SPEAKER_04 57:29

Oh, oh, there's the problem. That's why we ring the bell, because that's what it excludes if we go blockchain technology with voting, with tokenization, with the whole nine yards. So now think about blockchain technology and stop and go to Wall Street. Now think about those three words that we hate on this show: naked short selling, which means that wait a minute, all the transactions are visible. So wait, now hold on. We just had 40 million shares of GameStop move when there's only 20 million shares of GameStop available to sell. Uh-oh. So, what did you whisper? You whispered something.

SPEAKER_01 58:08

I was saying he was he's really getting going. Oh, he's way down the hole here. Am I wrong? I don't know much about that. No, it gives you open accountability.

SPEAKER_03 58:17

Yeah, it gives you real-time accountability is the biggest thing, right?

SPEAKER_01 58:19

I think I think it's almost like a stock ticker. If we can just see it, right? Like, look, I'm I'm very anti giving your genetics so you can go into the database. I don't like that. But being accountable with my identification for things that I'm legally supposed to be doing, I'm okay with that. Because you know why? A cop's gonna ask me for ID. I go and buy alcohol, they're gonna ask me for ID, I go to Caleb's shop. He knows me so well. Lee, I need to see your ID. I mean, I know all the guys over there. It's a firearm store. Guess what, buddy? Gotta have your ID. Hey, Cap, we're talking right here. I need to see your ID. Every single time. It's okay. And people who can't get ID, I think it's a sham. I think I think that that conversation is over. They've got mobile, mobile libraries. The only thing you've got mobile doors to get an ID. They giving away cell phones on the corner. Like we can't get a printed ID out on the city.

SPEAKER_04 59:05

Let's talk about managing the rule, not the exception. The question is, how many people of voting age who are going to vote in the United States don't drive a car? Period. How many?

SPEAKER_01 59:15

I don't know, because on the East Coast, a lot of people don't drive, right? So they don't maybe need a driver's license. There's their East West Coast, the transaction. Hold on. But they need an ID.

SPEAKER_04 59:24

Do they rent? I don't know. Do they they probably live somewhere?

SPEAKER_03 59:27

They have an ID. They don't necessarily have a driver's license.

SPEAKER_04 59:29

That's right.

SPEAKER_01 59:29

I that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04 59:30

But you can still have a legal ID that would allow you to vote for the streets. I mean, it might be a driver's lesson.

SPEAKER_01 59:34

It might be fun to road trip to someplace like that and see how many things you can get accomplished without actually producing an ID. Like well, that would be too much fun. It would be a fun, a fun trip to go and be like, can I can I get a bank account that some small bank that's not going to ask me? Okay, cool. Now I can get a way to receive funds, right? Okay, cool. Let me go see if I can procure a hotel room or something in a motel without ID. Like just see if I could live a day. So here's my question.

SPEAKER_04 59:57

I'm wondering if we could go to the Northeast and apply for government assistance without an ID. Stop. You can't shove us no, though. Why show us? Why are you saying only in the Northeast? It can be the Northeast, it can be any major urban center. The Northeast, typically for this reason, geography. Because, you know, in the South, it's amazing when people come here from out of out of the United States and they're like, man, this country is so big. The vastness of the geography, as opposed to a city like New York City, where you can literally not leave 12 blocks, three square block area. You've got your doctor, your grocery, you've got your job, you've got your apartment or your home, you've got everything within walking distance.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:33

Side note, has anybody been following the World Cup and all the travelers that we had from Europe? We talked about that last week. I know. You didn't listen. I'm sorry. Then don't talk about it. It was awesome. Reference last week. Move on.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:43

I'll sit in the corner. And you know, I think your odds are all a lot better, too, in places like New York, New Jersey, Los Angeles, San Francisco, where you just have people that are that are that should be paying more attention, right? Anytime you look at physical security, if you go to somewhere that has a lot more numbers coming through it, well, your odds are better to sneak in because there are just more numbers. And sometimes those numbers are the one-minute finger that we just have to abide by.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:04

Oh, did he give us the one-minute finger?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:06

So it won't be long, but we'll be right back. Great call.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:09

Implicit bias radio is back in the Mr. Lester's top secret podcast layer. Caleb, do you remember the special at Mr. Lester's for the month of July? Well, it's a flight. Nope. No, wait, hold on. Wait, hold on. No, the flight was only for the fourth of July.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:21

You're right. Yeah, I'm sorry. You were close. And poor glasses in. It is the 1792 barrel pick, though. Yes. And your first pour is only five freaking dollars. Ten bucks after? And if you want the whole bottle? 50 bucks in the restaurant. You guys did that. Beyond affordable.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:36

And a fantastic whiskey at that. That is Caleb Morris at the bar. We have Lee Ritter. We have DW who refuses to wear his chain today.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:44

I made use of the uh $5 special when last time we were down there. Oh, you did? Good on you.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:49

So did you have implicit barrel?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:51

Yes, I did.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:51

What'd you think of it?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:52

Awesome. Awesome. I had, in fact, I had three that night. Oh.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:57

You should have just bought a whole bottle for 50. Or did you buy a bottle?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:00

I was at a special little party, you know, where they're giving you tickets.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:03

Yeah, yeah. I should have bought a second bottle while I was there for that. Yeah, I should have bought a second one as well because they're just that good. Yep. All right. So we got to get back to the Election Assistance Commission because we said we would come back to what that was and what that's about. Because here's the one big thing, and I want to make sure I get this right, so I'm going to read it. What's the one big thing that the Election Assurance or Assistance Commission actually runs? Anyone know exactly what it is? Is it the labs? No, no, they don't run the code. Isn't it the machinery?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:32

Isn't it something to do with the electronic voting machinery and tabulations?

SPEAKER_04 1:02:35

Here's the big thing they run that really matters, and this is why the Supreme Court decision allowing Trump to fire bureaucrats in these roles is a big deal. And by the way, allegedly Trump fired a bunch of them. They maintained the national male voter registration form under the National Voter Registration Act of 1993.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:52

And when you say male, M-A-I-L or is that? M-A-I-L. That's what I thought.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:55

That's what I thought. USP S, like snail mail, like chain mail armor, M-A-I-L. Yes. Not M-A-L-E, which, you know, is kryptonite to certain people. Anyway, this is the this is the big thing here that I think has to be called out. Because a lot of us, especially people on the show, will say, nothing's happening, nothing's going on. Things are happening that are getting us there, just not as quickly as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:21

There's another layer in the cake of the normal citizenry, have no idea this is even going on. Like we're going about our day, every two years there's an election, every four years there's a big election. It has probably very little to do with our local elections and statewide, but like all these federal elections that tie all of our tax dollars. There's if I talk to everybody on my street, all my buddies, I've got five guys we live with, and Brian Harman is one of them, and we sit down and we talk, two or three of us are going to have a conversation about did you know about that? Like, I had no idea about that. And then a couple of them are gonna be like, I don't I don't really care. And then the rest of us are like, they did what? And that's usually Brian.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:56

So when you think about the monologue from this week and we talk about wise as serpents, peaceful as doves, this is what the wolves do. We are the sheep, and the wolves are out there going, okay, how do we build in multiple layers of manipulation to this? And when you start to think about people who sit on this board, if they are partisan in any way, shape, or form, and look, this cuts both ways. This cuts for the Republicans and the Democrats. But when you look at it and go, if they are keeping their finger on the scale from here, it's an invisible hand that no one knows exists. And therein lies the big problem. Is that hand, to Ritter's point, is so many times invisible to the rest of us. Why? Because we ASS UME that things are on the up and up. We can't just assume that everything is the way it's supposed to be and taken care of.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:53

And that's where we push for so much government transparency, because what have we learned in the 250 years we've exist? Governments will do what they can get away with. Oh, absolutely. To include our own.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:03

Up up to they get in in trouble and then they'll retract, maybe.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:07

And even then they're like, oh, it didn't work that time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:09

So let's, okay, that was plan A. Let's B's here. Let's start with C because they found A. And so let's go.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:14

When we talk about this, it's not just we're not just saying hey Democrats. Democrats, Republicans, they all do it. The problem with a two-party system is that they just help one another and not you the person.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:23

We just vote for one issue that we like versus the other issues we don't like on these two parties. That's uh that's about where I'm at.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:30

And this is why this ties into essentially what we talked about last week. Right? So ring the bell. Because the conspiracy theorists were right again. Last week's show. Anybody catch the title of last week's show on podcast? You told me I didn't listen and I didn't. That's fine. Do you remember the topic of last week's show, the title of last week's monologue? That was a uh You are not American. Correct. You are not an American. And look, that was a bottle of two bottles of whiskey ago. I remember that. And here's the really crazy part you now have the little democratic socialist people on. Camera saying, and and this is a quote we have to destroy our government from within.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:08

That's super scary if you think about it. Because it, I mean, I have friends of all ilk, right? All over the party. I mean, just doesn't matter what party. Look, we talk and we like we're talking, we're talking, we're talking. I'm like, oh, you know, I don't agree with that. They're like, yeah, me either. I don't agree with that. I'm like, all right, cool. Want a French fry? You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 1:06:24

You should be eating freedom fries first of all.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:25

Freedom fries. Correct. Correct. I'm sorry. I will sit in the corner. You're right, freedom fries. But you know what I'm saying? Like, we agree as a society on 85, 90, 92% of everything. It's the 8%, and people are enraged about. And it's like, well, can we just set those topics off to the side? Let's have a good conversation and let's come to some medium. People don't even know how to talk anymore because their heads are buried in a phone.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:46

People would rather yell and argue with one another than have meaningful conversations.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:49

Well, they don't even know how to argue these days without that without messing up a friendship. Well, and it's not about messing the friendship, it's about let's have a conversation.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:56

Here's the other part of that as well, which is you've gotten so many people who have become single issue voters that it's a problem. And what do I mean by that? So, for example, you have to figure out any negotiation is understanding what they call the the acronym is BATNA, best alternative to no offer, right? Or to no agreement. BATNA. Best alternative to no agreement. Which means you effectively figure out what is your walkaway issue, dollar amount, whatever the negotiation is. And both parties have done a really good job of making the entire discussion about walk away issues. For example, and we're not going to go into the issue, but abortion is a walkaway issue for millions upon millions of people.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:45

Way too many people that should agree on the other part.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:48

And here's the crazy part it's not even the whole issue of abortion that is the walkaway issue. Because I guarantee you, if you ask, if you ask 10,000 people who say they are pro-abortion, they are for murder, in our opinion. And if you ask them, okay, so is there is there a span? Well, what once the baby's born, right? 90% of them are gonna be like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's not. 80% of them are gonna be like, no, that's not. But literally, they're doing those things and trying to confine the entire conversation to, oh no, we're not doing that. They're getting rid of all, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:08:30

Well, that's that's make everything an absolute. That's the game is to make it an absolute to where at that point a conversation can't be had, a negotiation can't be had because it's so absolute, you're either for it or against it. And then it doesn't become for it against the topic, it's either for us or against us. And they divide their own bodies, right? So all the parties, but the key word is us.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:51

Yes. That's it, and they can't define who us is either, because that's a moving target. Because if it's about the issue of abortion, I'm in this us group. Yep. If I'm in uh an anti-2A group, I'm in this us group. That us group shifts as opposed to being, I have an opinion of it, but I can settle in the wide margins.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:10

Gun control should be gun control is such a great conversation there. Because many Americans would argue, well, we should we should have, and this is how they frame it, common sense gun laws. Um common sense doesn't exist anymore. Number one, that doesn't exist. Number two, how about we already have it? How many times do you see the dumb meme that says if you're for voter ID, you should also be for an ID to buy a gun, correct? Um, high moron, you probably lived under power lines as a kid. You already have to have it. And I would explain it to you, but I don't have the right color crayons to put it out there, so you'd actually get it.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:44

Or they don't have the ID anyway. Well, and they've been force-fed so much wrong or poor information because they just believe that the government's here to protect them and defend them. But that's not the role of the government.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:54

But the thing is, like, okay, as a I'm not a novice gun owner at this point, but as somebody who recently has gotten into it, I say recent in my middle ages, I wasn't a young hunter or shooter or anything. You walk into a gun shop, it's intimidating. First few times I went and visited Caleb. There's a lot of stuff there, man. There's a lot of firearms on a wall, there's a lot of gizmos and gadgets, and there's there's guys dropping, well, you've got this brand and this caliber and this rank. And I'm going, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. And I do it a lot still with I'm like, hey, dude, this is what I want. Just tell me what I want. And you're like, here's three things you need. I'm like, okay, you what would you choose? He's telling me this. What's the budget-friendly item? This, and what's the sexy item? This. Okay, now I can make my choice, right? But I've educated myself walking into the shop with my ID, and I'm still don't know anything, but I know, okay, maybe I do or don't want these things, right? People won't even walk in because it's too intimidating, but say, you're wrong. You did it wrong, you're not doing it right. And and they have no idea of what it takes to do that.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:51

So I'll give you a great example of that. I had a conversation with a longtime friend, and we don't agree on a lot. We're still longtime friends. As you should be. And we should. And we got into the conversation and he looked at me and said, Should you just be able to walk in and buy a military grade weapon right off the bat? We're gonna go long here, Walker. And I said, So help me understand. What do you mean, military grade? He goes, Well, like a machine gun, just buy it right off the shelf. And I said, So let me ask. I said, so let me ask, are you familiar with what you can buy today? No, I have no idea. I said, so let me start here. Should I be able to buy a hunting rifle that's semi-automatic? Oh, absolutely. So congratulations. That's all an AR-15 that you can walk in right off the shelf and buy is. He had no idea, but because he was told.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:31

Big black gun look bad.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:33

Correct. That's where we land. We're gonna come back. More implicit bias radio right after this penultimate segment already, Walker. Yep. Outstanding. We'll see you in two minutes, 30 seconds. I'm not saying it's aliens, but it's aliens on this week's episode of Implicit Bias Radio.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:50

Caleb It's the second time I've done it now. The first time for Walker, and I loved his just panic looked. Yes. It made me so happy.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:56

Caleb did that to Aaron last week, who was running audio, and poor Aaron. I he didn't know what to do with it, I think, but he let it roll, which was the right thing to do.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:04

Because that's a common mistake amongst anybody. So shooting video, and we're gonna go off a brief tangent here. If you're shooting video, if you're recording audio, when you get something unexpected, the natural reaction a lot of times is to hit the button and stop. Stop, fix it. So, like if you're videoing something and something unexpected happens, you go, oh no. No, you just have to let it roll and let whatever's happened going to happen, and then you've actually got it. When in doubt, rottle out. There you go. All right, so back to the topic of I'm not saying it's aliens, but it's aliens on this week's episode of Implicit Bias Radio. The US government has now released more UAP files, and I'm curious as to what we think of whether it's the video of what looks, I think they're calling it like a jellyfish.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:46

Yeah, it's a jellyfish. The jellyfish of the UFO releases now. I mean, is this all you got? Keep coming. I want it all. I want every bit of those files they've got. I feel like we're being spoon-fed like a baby, and here's the carrots. Oh, they had enough carrots. Guess what? Let's give them the peas. They ain't seen this one.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:08

Well, what does the government say all the time, right? It's terrible. Give it all to me. You're too ignorant or you're too whatever to control it, understand it, or manage it. Yep. Look, if if aliens exist, which as a Christian, you should believe aliens exist.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:21

I I would agree with that because anything that is not of this earth is an alien.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:25

Therefore, angels, God are technically alien. Correct, heavenly bodies, everything else, right? So you should believe that this kind of exists. So let's look at it. Let's see it. Let's find it. The day we have a rolling wheel of eyeballs going around looking around in the sky, I'm like, oh damn. Yeah, the book of Enoch was pretty right.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:42

Yeah, yeah. I mean, just give it to me. If you've got the proof, the people are smarter than you give them. Well, I don't know. We could argue that.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:49

Hey, remember George Carlin. And it is true. Think about how dumb the average American is, and then realize that half of us are dumber than the other.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:55

It's dumber than that. Right. And that's what hit me. I'm like, well, maybe, maybe I want to give them the credit. But like, just give us the information. It it's not going to change the world, I don't feel.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:05

But I believe it's out there daily. I just I don't think that we're privy to the information. I mean, I especially I think on the West Coast, where I think this happens more often.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:14

Believe it or not, you know where the number one site for seeing UFOs is, has been up until maybe the last couple of years. I haven't verified it last couple of years, but up until a few years ago.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:24

It used to be Florida, huh?

SPEAKER_04 1:14:25

Gulf Breeze, Florida. That's what I thought.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:27

Yeah, it was now right by Pensacola.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:29

Well, what's in Pensacola?

SPEAKER_01 1:14:30

A lot of bushwhackers and rum drinks.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:32

Oh, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:33

I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:34

Naval Air. I'm just going the wrong way. Right? A naval air station is in Florida, right there in Pensacola. Who's based out of that naval air base?

SPEAKER_01 1:14:44

The Blue Angels. Well, there's the Blue Angels, right? But there's also the Marine Raiders are based out right around there at Eglin. There's a lot of um uh software.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:54

So Eglin is Eglin's your Air Force Base, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:14:56

But it's Eglin is it's minutes down the highway. It is. My brother trained there. There's so many smaller air bases. There is so much aviation activity in probably a 50-mile block. It's unbelievable. Okay. But to the point, there's gonna be a lot of activity going on, and then there's a lot of um there's a lot of there's a lot of celebratory activity happening, which goes well with coming up and seeing things, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:15:21

Did y'all hear about what happened on June 28th of this year? No. Oh, y'all didn't hear about the fireball across the South?

SPEAKER_01 1:15:28

Oh, I I saw a little bit of something about this. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:30

So we talk about UAPs and everything else.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:32

4 30 in the morning or something?

SPEAKER_03 1:15:33

Yeah, it was early early in the morning. Um, and there was a fireball that it was seen in Louisiana, uh, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, Texas, even all the way to the West Coast, between four and five in the morning, that lit up the entire sky. Many, many people are that claim to hear it explode as well. But yet we look at what the government's released. Nada. Right? So when we look at UAPs, we look at alien activity, we look at unidentified anything, well, if we hear about one thing, there's another 100 and 150 things that gets put behind somewhere.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:03

Here's my thought process on what we have seen, what we know. First of all, I kind of agree with Ritter, which is give it all to me. I believe though that they're not giving it all to you on purpose. And here's why. How many emails do you get a day, Caleb? Oh god, 500. 500. How many of those are business related that you have to pay attention to? 12. 12. Ritter, how many emails do you get a day? I'm on par with that at least. So your email has become what?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:35

Spam.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:36

It's noise. Yep. Literally, you're you you've gotten to the point where you look at your email and you're like, oh crap, what is this? And you just keep going. I think the government's philosophy on this is to get the populace to a point where we're just like, yes, so what? Who cares? It's noise at this point. We ignore it so that when they finally do go, hey, there's life somewhere else, the rest of us are gonna be like, well, no, Sherlock.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:57

Well, didn't we didn't we have that about two months ago? And didn't it come out that I think uh President uh Obama had said something to this recently that President Obama had said made a maybe a Freudian slip or something like we have life? Like he made a I mean, there's a reference that there's a positive from his point of view, and I think it got blaseed over pretty quick. We've got all these files. Um let's go. Like, let's just give it to me, man. If we got floating cars and we don't know about it, we're using technology, the world will be okay. It'll be fine. We've had the internet for 26 years. Well, I don't know. What did Gore say we've had it for? 35? He said he created it, whatever.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:31

My my whole point is they've gotten us to a point where we just don't care anymore. I mean, literally, I've seen people enhance this video of this jellyfish thing. It looks really cool and interesting. Either tell me what it is, tell me we have zero answer and it's not from this planet, which confirms that yes, there is life and this is what we know about it. Did y'all watch the first releases?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:55

So the first round of release that came out this spring, wife and I had a we made a pot of coffee and we're like, we're gonna watch the videos. Literally, tuned into a couple YouTube channels, and we watched like almost two hours of probably the worst videos we've ever seen. And it was a white dot slinging around and doing all this. And I'm like, I mean, it looks like an amiibo on a slide, right? And I'm like, I was fairly disappointed. Give me the jellyfish first day. Yeah, you're like, is this really what we have? Is this is this is we watching the opening credits or the of the trailer?

SPEAKER_04 1:18:24

I want to see the jellyfish, which I want to see the silver ship, which proves to me my point, right? Yeah, they had the jellyfish, they could have released it, and it would have been a shocker. But now, because you've seen you've seen what looks like the amoeba on the slide and you've seen the tic-tac, which you cannot tell what it is.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:40

My wife was like, Yeah, like she didn't even mention it this morning, like, hey, we should watch it. She's like, Yeah, whatever. And and there And I think they got it, you know? I mean, whatever.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:49

So the question now becomes are they covering up military or are they covering up real understanding of what whether it's extra-dimensional or extraterrestrial life is?

SPEAKER_03 1:19:03

I don't know. So I think you posed a great question because it's not if they are covering up, it's what are they covering up.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:11

Well, somebody ring the bell. Yeah, yeah. Well, here's the other thing. How fast have we shifted our focus from Mars to the Moon? I mean, if you're tracking that, right? Like we're gonna go to Mars, we're gonna be there by 2032, or whatever it was. The richest man in the world, that's all his focus has been for 10 years. And then we saw within three weeks before his public launch, we're gonna have a base on the moon. How fast did he shift?

SPEAKER_03 1:19:34

Well, if you shoot for Mars, if you shoot for Mars, the moon's a whole lot closer.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:38

But well, the argument is if you're shooting for Mars, you have to have the moon first anyway.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:42

No, if you go look at all of his arguments, part of his plans. Go look at all of his arguments before. All of it was launch, launch windows, all of it. It was not to have the supporting satellite. Now it's let's get the satellite. And maybe that's the Trump effect saying we're gonna be on the moon, right? Maybe could be. I mean, who knows? But like if you track that sort of stuff, and I feel like I'm pretty certain, like, we're going to Mars, then like 10 years of that, we're going, no, let's go to the moon. Okay, what are what's going on on the moon?

SPEAKER_04 1:20:10

I'm just done with the oh, it's aliens, it's not. I mean, at this point, to me, the case has been settled. Reasonable doubt has been reached, yeah, and we're there. Much like this whole so the video I sent you guys about the guy who said, Oh, this is a place in Utah where we're finding this city. Um, did y'all really look into that? It was a little weird. Did you really look into it? It's in Jordan, it's in Petra. That is that is from Petra, it's not from Utah.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:41

I mean, I just want to sit down with an alien and share a bourbon, to be honest. Look, here's what I want to do. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:47

I don't want you trying to convince me that it's in Utah when it's in Petra. What I want you to convince me of is how an ancient civilization actually figured out how to create those without messing them up and creating the perfection that they created, which means that we have one more segment of perfection for you that is implicit bias radio right after this. We are gonna get Mike Trammell to talk in this segment of this week's episode of Implicit Bias Radio. I spoke last uh Yes, he slides the mic away again.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:17

Y'all are talking about a lot of conversations I'm not really involved in.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:20

Well, this is a fun one because this one you know, we like to tip our hats to certain people, especially when they deal with I'm trying to think of the right way to say this. Morons the right way.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:33

Oh, it's perfect for me.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:35

So there is an auto dealership in Europe, I believe it was Germany specifically, where some protesters went in and to protest the auto dealership, they glued their hands to the floor in the auto dealership. Porsche dealership.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:51

Let's be honest, a high-end luxury vehicle dealership. It wasn't a Yugo dealership.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:55

It doesn't matter if it's a Yugo dealership or not. What matters is how they were dealt with. The perfect way. So the perfect way in our implicit bias is this. Number one, it starts with consider the source and don't recognize that stupid people are in your midst. They ignored the snot out of these protesters. Literally, they didn't call anybody, they didn't call the police, they didn't do anything. They went, oh, you glued your hands to the floor. Okay, and just went on like nothing happened.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:24

Offered them no assistance. Well, no, that's not their job. These people should have planned better. They should have a support team, you know, but they didn't. They didn't have bedpans, no, I think I could meals. They said it got cold in there.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:36

Irritating hand cream. Well, that's the typical people who protest. They're the ones who were looking for that backup, that government backup, that handout that's gonna give them.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:43

Come help me, come help me. I told you we'd get Mike to talk. There we go.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:48

One of the one of their complaints, Mike, was uh they weren't provided access to the bathrooms.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:53

Yeah. But their hand was glued to the floor. Did you read that part? Yeah, I read that part, but you gonna give it away.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:58

Wouldn't the dealership have public bathrooms? Yeah, feel free.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:01

Well, they have public bathrooms.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:02

And they could use them after hours too. Feel free to get up. Oh, you can't get up.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:06

So this is beautiful. First, they ignored their existence. Second of all, they said, okay, be careful what you wish for, Mr. and Mrs. Protester. You might just get it. So you have glued your hand to the floor. We turn off the heat at night. And oh, by the way, they said, Oh, can you get us this? We want to use the bathroom. Nope. You're gonna soil yourself right where you are. What's that song? What's the song? It's closing time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:30

Like when I read the article, like that song popped in my head. I was like, oh, these guys are gonna get it. And I just kept reading. I was like, Yep.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:37

So I could see Mike doing that. Like, he's like, hey, we're closing. I gotta take that mattress back. That's we're paying customers. Later.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:44

And this is the beauty of how to truly deal. Just ignore these people. I mean, at the end of the day, you wonder why we say you don't hate the media enough. I will never forget uh about a year and a half ago. I'm scrolling through what used to be the Twitter, now it's the X, and there is this video shot in New Orleans about a protest at City Hall. And they panned the crowd, and I was like, hold on a minute. And I stopped the video, started counting. 12 people. It was it was less than two dozen people.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:17

There you go.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:18

The headline read major protest more than more than 25, or it might have been less than 50 people, but it was or it's less than 60, and it was like more than 50 people show up. And I'm like, it's less than five dozen people, right? But there's nobody there. This is not news. If you just ignore them, sooner or later, they're gonna figure out that nobody gives a I mean and you can ignore it at a certain point, but the same thing like with your kids.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:43

When your kids are misbehaving, do you just ignore them? No, you you give them corrective action. I think that's what this portrait dealership did. And when we look at some of the protests that I've been privy to, not participated in, but privy to uh during Moto GP, F1, that kind of stuff. And they they go out and they're like, to protest, I'm gonna eat this carbon fiber piece of spoiler on the ground.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:01

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:02

Sure. And you know, our instructions are don't let them do it. Yeah, okay, that's a self-correcting problem.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:07

Yeah, I hope they do, and I hope they have all the medical bills to follow.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:10

You know what this reminds me of? This reminds me of, and Mike, you might be of an age where your parents took this attitude. I remember being about six or seven and being unhappy with my parents. And I said, I'm gonna run away. And my mom said, I'll go help you pack the bag. Let's go. Yeah, right there. See you later. No problem. And literally, I think I got like halfway down the block and I was like, um, I don't, I don't have pizza rolls with your.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:34

Was the door locked when you came back?

SPEAKER_04 1:25:36

The door was locked for about 30 seconds, but that's because my mom locked the door within a quarter of a millisecond of anyone walking out of the house. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:43

Well, my parents locked the door and let us sit outside the door and bang on it. And they were like, Oh, you want to come in?

SPEAKER_03 1:25:47

Here's your chore list. That's a very different attitude than I took when mine tried to run away. They're like, Dad, I'm running away. I was like, Great, those clothes are mine. This is mine, this is mine, this is mine. If you want to run away, naked and outside in the front yard, you go.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:01

I just believe that we need to take the stance with a lot of these people that if this is what you are signing up for, you're gonna get all of it. You don't get the privilege and the protest. If you want the protest, you can have the protest, but it's supposed to be a sacrifice and supposed to be painful, and it's gonna be every bit of that. But isn't that what people do with everything?

SPEAKER_03 1:26:23

Their their religion, their love life, their this they want to take the parts that mean something to them and throw away the rest. Well, that's not how faith works. Trample's gonna talk.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:31

Come on, Trammell. Come on, Tramble.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:33

Look, when you do a show with a britter, he's like a puppy dog over there. It's just like and you can get like three words in there. You gotta handle it, dude. Come on. Handle it. But anyway, protesters. So a lot of times, protesters who, when they're trying to do something, they contact the media, they put signs out, they put flyers out, they want the attention. And this is kind of what that dealership did. They didn't give them the attention, and look what happened to them. They paid the consequence.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:57

And look, it's why I say you don't hate the media enough because the media has to look at this and be like, all right, how many people are gonna show up? I will never forget 1997, covering a, and I'm gonna do the dreaded air quotes for our social media followers who are watching us on YouTube X Instagram, a protest in a local community here in southern Louisiana, where literally a city councilwoman showed up in a 1975 family truckster, opened up the back door, and poured out about nine children under the age of 10, handed them signs and said, Walk in a circle, y'all need to protest. I literally called the station and said, This is not a protest. A protest is people who get genuinely outraged, not one person who is creating their own selective outrage over something. Well, that's what social media people do now, though. But here's the problem Media stations are businesses. They are looking at allocation of resources. Oh, we've sent someone there, we're paying them to do this, they need to come back with a story. But all too often you get reporters who lean into that other side and go, oh, well, I'm gonna make this story. And there's your problem. They're making stories, they're creating news, and I loved what this Porsche dealership did because to that point, they're on private property. So guess what? If the media did show up, we are not granting you access to our property. Have a nice day.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:27

But you know, and that I have no means to buy a used or new Porsche. Neither do I. I would love to buy a DB9, you know, S. Um, but can't lie. The fact that a Porsche dealer is supposed to look how many other shops have had people come and glue their hands down to it. And look, we have a sign right here that says Johnny bag of donuts or whatever defecated himself right here. Okay, now I want to buy a car there.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:52

If that were the case, it does make me look at the the the new spiders that they've got out, the the what the nice yeah, that are just fine and go, man, if I could, I probably would just because of that. The other big question is when they do it on public property, because we've seen it here in the United States. Oh, we're gonna we're gonna cordon off the interstate, we're gonna block the interstate.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:14

Yeah, but now we can drive through that.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:15

Well, here's the thing technically, that's against the law.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:20

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SPEAKER_04 1:29:25

But for those who don't get that joke, Ranch Hand is the large grill guard on the front of a truck that would make sure your truck stays fine and whatever you hit doesn't. One minute finger walker? Yep. Are you freaking kidding me? All right. Hey, look, we have got more topics. We're going to do a bonus segment here on Implicit Bias Radio. So whatever you do, make sure you like, follow, share on social media. If you're watching on Podcast, Apple, Google, make sure that you are following us and subscribing so you can get the bonus content as well as every other episode of your implicit bias radio. Cheers. We'll see you in seven.